Ink Notes: J Herbin Lierre Sauvage

I’ve had a sample of J. Herbin Lierre Sauvage ink around for awhile. I finally got around to giving it a try. I had enough to completely fill two pens with a few drops for a third.

I like the color of the ink, a nice bright green with good saturation, at least compared to other greens I’ve been using recently. It was a little slow to dry, about 15 to 20 seconds so there was some accidental smudging but the drying time really isn’t a problem since I’m a righty. There was shading from both pens, although it was more noticeable with the medium nib.

The Bexley Imperial with a steel fine nib handled the ink well. Flow was consistent, without any hesitation or false starts. There was some noticeable shading with the ink. There wasn’t any feathering or bleed through on the papers I used which range from generic copy paper to Rhodia dot pads. The ink was easy to clean from the pen, taking only a couple minutes and only two flushes from my ear syringe.

The Sailor 1911 with a 21kt. medium nib also handled the ink well. Despite being a medium nib puts down a line on the thin side of medium. Despite this, there’s some nice shading with the ink, more so than the fine nib. No noticeable feathering or bleed through on the papers I used.

The Pilot Vanishing Point with a 18k gold needlepoint (XXXF) binderized specialty nib got the leftover drops. Despite the notoriously small convertor capacity it was less than half full when I filled it using a syringe. This was the first ink for the nib so it should be nicely tuned. It took a bit to saturate the feed but once it was the ink flow was pretty good. The ink was also easily flushed from this pen.

As a final note, cleaning the ink out of the sample vial was also extremely easy. The ink had been in there awhile and it’s not always easy to clean, especially off the inside of the cap.

I like the ink and would consider buying a bottle. But I’m holding off for now. I have a lot of inks to try and this ink doesn’t quit rise to the “must have” level.

Additional Reading or Viewing:

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Ink Notes: J. Herbin Rouge Hematite 1670 Anniversary Ink

J. Herbin Rouge Hematite 1670 Anniversary Ink bottle

My first pen with this ink was my Sailor 1911 Sterling Silver with a medium nib. The Sailor medium is a thin medium.

These notes are from that single use

  • The deep red of the ink is great
  • The ink was a real pain to clean from the pen. No staining, but uncountable flushes and flicking to remove all traces of the ink. I expect red ink to be harder to flush out, but this was more work than I expected. But the color is worth it.
  • I had some minor flow issues after the pen had been idle for a few days. Nothing major, but some false starts and an occasional skip. Eventually it worked itself out.
  • Nice shading with the ink even with the relatively thin line.
  • I didn’t see any of the gold sheen others have described.

I’ll be using this ink more and will update these notes as it flows through more pens.

Additional Reading (or Viewing)

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Ink Notes: J. Herbin Lie De The

Photo of a Lie De The ink bottle
J. Herbin Lie De The Ink Bottle

I like brown inks and the first time I saw J. Herbin Lie De The ink I thought it was destined to become my standard brown ink and one of my overall favorites, even though Google translate says the name is “Dregs of Tea” in english. The ink hasn’t met this expectations in my own use.

The ink doesn’t seem to know what it wants to be. The color varied widely across the two pens I used and different types of paper. Sometimes the ink looks like yellow mud and other times it’s a nice brown. Some uses may benefit from the variation (drawing, calligraphy) but not the standard writing that I do.

With my preference for fine nibs I don’t expect a lot of shading in the line. While I do get variation, it’s not shading. The variation is in the color the ink decides to be at the time. Even though I’ve been disappointed so far I did get a full bottle after using up the sample. Part of me hopes I had a bad sample or matched it with a poor choice of pens. Or screwed up some other way. I will say in the short time I’ve used the ink from the bottle it has been consistent.

Pens Used

So far I used the ink on two pens, both with fine nibs.

Edison Collier w/fine nib: Wrote a thin line that was more yellow that I like. Also frequently wrote a thin line that looked like thin yellow mud, which wasn’t easy or pleasant to read. Other times it was a good looking brown ink. I’m not sure why there was a difference since the paper type was often the same. Maybe room temperature or humidity affected it. This pen used an ink sample which may explain the differences between this pen and the others, which were from a full bottle.

Franklin-Christoph Model 29 w/fine nib: The ink has been consistent within paper brands. Unlike the Edison Collier, this pen was consistent on each type of paper. It did vary across paper. The ink has a very yellow tinge on Rhodia paper and is more brown on Field Notes and Doane paper. Nothing exciting, but no complaints either.

The ink may grow on me if it can avoid the look of mud. I’m looking forward to trying the ink in some wider nibs where the ink may get to show off its shading.

Additional Reading

FPGeeks Inkcyclopedia

Fountain Pen Networ Review

The Pen Addict (Great drawings with the ink)

Photo of a pen resting on a J. Herbin ink bottle
The J. Herbin pen bottles have a built in pen rest.